From: John Jackson Smith Subject: Mr. and Mrs. Rob at it again Read below (if necessary) to see the current argument between the Robs concerning the number of beers involved in "having a beer," "having a couple of beers," and Drinking Beer. They have demanded a verdict but will get a lesson instead: Robs, I think that you argue like the Pharisees, over the letter or in this case number of the law for the simple love of argument, but in doing so forget the spirit of the law. When you think of degree of beer consumption, think of kissing. (I know that you will initially want to elevate this analogy to deeper carnal levels, but remember that we're talking about beer, not booze.) Some kissing is simply a formality, the yuropeens do it when they meet (ignore when the guys do it to the guys, that is french and is only applicable when discussing wine coolers, not beer.) This is a kind of friendly handshake, appropriate for the little old lady in church who insists on it, your mom's friends, your friends' moms, etc. Another type of kissing means slightly more. It is a way of showing completely chaste affection. This is usually used for grandparents, parents, close friends of the opposite sex, or in rare occasions could be used on dudes, for instance: if Billy Evans appeared with a case of beer late on a Saturday night just as the last of the Sunday beer was being swallowed. This type of kiss is not frivolous, it is usually both loving and meaningful, but still desireless, like a kiss goodnight. The last is simple, it lasts longer than 5 seconds; it frequently involves disheveled clothing, either on the person or on the floor. Much like "Drinking Beer," it can be an end in itself, but often leads to others. So now onto beer. Apply the numbers if and as you wish, keeping in mind that beer varies in size and potency. "Having a beer" is something you can do with older colleagues with whom you are not quite on peer to peer standing. The number of beers consumed are about the number you could drink at a relaxed, informal lunch and then go on with the rest of your day. You can also "have a beer" while doing many other activities. It is more friendly than a cup of coffee or even an alcohol-free meal but it does not indicate camaraderie. When done with friends it usually occurs because there is simply not time for "a couple of beers." If you need a number here I would suggest that it is tough, but not impossible to go over 3-4 without moving to the next stage... "Having a couple of beers" has a different significance. The number of beers consumed is definitely higher but so are the spirits. You generally have a couple of beers with your friends, or if with colleagues or acquaintances they should be considered friends afterward. If they are not, they should be branded as wankers. Activities that are appropriate while having a couple of beers are slightly less than while "having a beer." Operating (certain) power tools is discouraged, while joke telling, reveling, bowling, and other activities--sometimes even singing--may be encouraged. Since it is beer, it is still not drinking, but you should be having a better time while doing it than when you started. Numbers here also vary, but really should only be counted when it's necessary to find out if more beer needs to be obtained. Drinking beer is quite different. It may be preceded by having a couple of beers but cannot be called "the same only more so." You drink beer with friends and if someone is not your friend afterward, he is your enemy. Your emotions are elevated but may stray in any direction. Thus, one frequent activity that accompanies drinking beer is fighting. You may fight your demons, your enemies, or if they are the only ones handy, your friends. Other activities include hitting on women or inanimate objects and slurring speech. Much like the passionate kiss, drinking beer shows real desire for the beer, and a commitment to the beer, perhaps long term or maybe only for the evening. The number here should also not be counted, and if it is it should not be remembered. While in other cases it is perfectly appropriate to say that beer does not constitute drinking, "Drinking Beer" is. I hope this settles your dispute and allows you to move on to another one. -schmitty